Is the prosperity gospel a dangerous heresy, or are we just uncomfortable with God actually wanting to bless us?

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  Casey3w ago

  I grew up in a Word of Faith church and watched my mother, a genuinely devout woman, blame herself for not having enough faith when the chemo stopped working. She died convinced God had rejected her. THAT is what this doctrine produces. Don't tell me it's just 'misunderstood.'

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  Noah3w ago

  The Apostles were beaten, shipwrecked, imprisoned, and executed. If the prosperity gospel is true, they all must have had some serious faith deficiency. Peter, Paul, James — just not believing hard enough, I guess.

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  Omar 923w ago

  Heresy. Full stop. When your theology falls apart the moment someone gets cancer or loses their job, it was never theology — it was a sales pitch.

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  Jordan S.3w ago

  The thing that actually made me leave my prosperity church wasn't a theological argument. It was watching the pastor get a third car while counseling a widow to give her last $200 as a seed offering. Theology became real clear real fast.

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  Taylor K.3w ago

  If you're defending this theology and you've never sat with a Haitian believer or a persecuted Chinese Christian and tried to explain why their poverty and their prison sentences mean God is withholding blessing for lack of faith — please do that before you post again.

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  Reese3w ago

  Also worth noting — Jesus himself was effectively homeless during his ministry. 'Foxes have holes, birds have nests, the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.' If the prosperity gospel is true, Jesus was doing it wrong.

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  Omar3w ago

  3 John 1:2 is a personal greeting. It's the ancient equivalent of 'hope you're doing well.' You can't build an entire theology of guaranteed material prosperity on a letter salutation any more than you'd build a theology from 'Dear Timothy.' Context. Please.

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  Noah T.2w ago

  If you're in a church right now where the pastor drives better cars than most of his congregation, drives them because the congregation paid for them, and regularly asks for large financial commitments with spiritual promises attached — please hear me: that is not normal Christianity. You are allowed to leave.

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  Drew3w ago

  Yes the method matters. Paul says if someone preaches a different gospel, let them be accursed. Galatians 1:8. He didn't add an exception clause for when attendance numbers look good.

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  Reese3w ago

  I'm a pastor in a low-income urban church and I've watched prosperity gospel rip my congregation apart. People leave for the big shiny church down the street, get loaded up with financial 'seed faith' obligations they can't afford, then show up back at my door two years later ashamed and broke and convinced God abandoned them. I spend half my ministry repairing the damage.

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  Casey S.2w ago

  To the person above: if the theology consistently and reliably produces the same kind of greed and exploitation across every culture and continent it appears in, at what point do you admit the theology might be producing the fruit? A tree is known by what it grows. That's not my idea — that's Matthew 7.

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  Theo3w ago

  Hard heresy. And I say this as someone who spent seven years in a prosperity church and genuinely loved the people there. The doctrine is rotten at the root. The fruit — broken people who can't reconcile their faith with reality — proves it.

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  Alex3w ago

  What bothers me theologically is that it essentially turns faith into a work. You have to have enough of it, speak it correctly, not doubt. At that point faith isn't trust in a Person, it's a mechanism you have to operate correctly. That's closer to magic than Christianity.

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  Alex3w ago

  To the person citing Abraham and Solomon — you're reading a covenant God made with a specific nation under a specific theocratic arrangement and applying it wholesale to 21st century American Christians. That's not Bible interpretation, that's proof-texting.

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  Maya3w ago

  My whole family believes this stuff and family dinners are basically a minefield. If I say anything critical I'm 'speaking negativity' and 'cursing' the blessing. You literally cannot critique the theology from inside it because doubt itself becomes the reason your blessing hasn't come. It's a closed loop.

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  Iris3w ago

  What gets me is how it completely ignores literally half the New Testament. Poverty as a spiritual danger? Sure, they'll preach that. Paul being content in ALL states including NEED (Phil 4:11)? Somehow that verse never makes the highlight reel.

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  Kofi3w ago

  That closed loop is exactly how cultic thinking works, by the way. The unfalsifiability is a feature, not a bug. If it works, God blessed you. If it doesn't, your faith failed. The doctrine can never be wrong.

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  Yuki3w ago

  Answering the genuine question above because it's actually good: The distinction is between God's freedom to bless and a formula that obligates Him to. Prosperity gospel says if you do X, God MUST deliver Y. Orthodox Christianity says God is generous and sovereign and His ways are not our ways. One makes God a party to a contract. The other worships a Person.

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  Drew3w ago

  John 10:10 — 'life abundantly' — is about spiritual fullness, eternal life, restoration. Read it in context. Jesus says it right after talking about being the Good Shepherd who lays down his LIFE. The abundance He's describing includes the cross. That's not a prosperity promise, that's an invitation into a completely different kind of life than the world offers.

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  Morgan3w ago

  Can we talk about the actual demographics here? These churches grow fastest in communities experiencing economic desperation. The hope being sold isn't just spiritual, it's material. I'm not saying that makes the people gullible — I'm saying it makes the preachers predatory.

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  Zara3w ago

  I think the critics and the defenders are both missing something. Is God able to bless financially? Absolutely. Does He promise to if you tithe or confess enough? Absolutely not. The prosperity gospel collapses the distinction between God's sovereign generosity and a vending machine you operate with enough faith-coins.

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  Elena2w ago

  I'll be the one to say it: a lot of mainstream evangelical critics of prosperity gospel have clean hands doctrinally and very comfortable lives financially. The critique is correct, but it sometimes lands without much compassion for WHY these churches are so attractive to people in real economic pain. We should be equally angry at a Christianity that has nothing to say to the poor.

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  Maya3w ago

  ^^ this actually. I've been in both worlds. The prosperity camp spiritualizes wealth. The Reformed camp sometimes spiritualizes suffering. Neither is the full picture.

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  Theo3w ago

  I think there's genuine good news for poor people in the gospel and prosperity preachers tap into a real hunger for that. The tragedy is they redirect it into something that ultimately extracts from the poor rather than liberating them. It's almost a parody of what the actual gospel promises.

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  Maya S.3w ago

  I want to push back gently on the people calling for legal consequences. I don't want the government deciding what theology is acceptable, even bad theology. The answer is better preaching, better biblical literacy in our congregations, and more pastors willing to call this out by name from the pulpit.

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  Priya M.3w ago

  Look I'm not defending the guys in the private jets. That's obviously greed dressed in a collar. But there IS a real theology of blessing in scripture and I think the reaction has swung so far that some Reformed guys now treat suffering like it's REQUIRED to prove you're serious. That's its own kind of works righteousness.

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  Priya T.3w ago

  ngl i used to think this way and looking back i gave money i didnt have because i thought it would come back multiplied. it didnt. i dont blame God but i do think the pastor knew exactly what he was doing

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  Priya M.3w ago

  Heresy doesn't even feel like a strong enough word when people are sending rent money to millionaire preachers because they were told God would multiply it. There should be legal consequences. End of discussion.

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  Jordan3w ago

  Genuine question, not trying to be snarky: if we say God can and does bless materially, where exactly do we draw the line between that and prosperity gospel? Because every time I try to make that argument people just call me a heretic without explaining the actual distinction.

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  Taylor3w ago

  ok but y'all act like God WANTS his people broke and sick. Abraham was rich. Solomon was rich. Job got DOUBLED at the end. Why is it so hard to believe God blesses materially??

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  Morgan B.2w ago

  Misunderstood. There, I said it. Not defending the excesses. But the baby-bathwater thing is real. God blesses. God heals. Expect good things from a good Father. Where it goes wrong is when pastors monetize that expectation. The theology isn't the problem, the greed is.

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  Priya 923w ago

  My pastor says it's not heresy if people actually come to faith through those churches. And honestly? Our church doubled in size when we started preaching that God wants abundance. Souls are getting saved. Does the method really matter?

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  Casey R.3w ago

  idk man Jesus said he came to give life ABUNDANTLY. that word is right there. abundant. y'all just want a sad suffering gospel and call it deep

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  Hana S.3w ago

  Okay but what about 3 John 1:2? 'I pray that you may prosper in every way and be in good health.' That's right there in the Bible. Why do we ignore the verses we don't like?

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