If God commands rest, why do most Christians ignore it completely — and why does nobody seem bothered by that?

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  Riley1mo ago

  I attend a Seventh-day Adventist church and I want to say something to the evangelical crowd here: you will invoke the Fourth Commandment constantly when arguing against LGBTQ inclusion, arguing for national Christian identity, and invoking 'Ten Commandment values' in culture wars — but the moment the Fourth Commandment costs you something personally, it becomes 'fulfilled in Christ.' That level of selectivity should bother you more than it apparently does.

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  Zara1mo ago

  I've been a pastor for 22 years and I'll say what most won't: the American church's abandonment of Sabbath isn't a theological position, it's convenience dressed up as grace. We decided the commandment was inconvenient and then found the verses to justify ignoring it. If you genuinely believe God embedded rest into the structure of creation itself in Genesis 2, before any law was given to Israel, you have a serious problem explaining why that principle evaporates after the cross.

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  Maya1mo ago

  My grandmother kept Sabbath — sundown Friday to sundown Saturday, no exceptions. She would not answer the phone. She would not drive. She sat, she prayed, she read. I thought it was extreme when I was a teenager and I thought she was missing out. I'm 47 now and I would give almost anything to have her peace. I don't know what the right theology is, but she had something the rest of us don't, and I think the Sabbath was a big part of it.

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  Theo1mo ago

  We are so far into the weeds of the debate we forgot to ask the most basic question: when did you last actually stop? Like truly stop — no tasks, no productivity, no anxiety about tomorrow — and just be present with God? I haven't. Not in a long time. And I can keep arguing the theology all day but if I'm honest with myself, the Fourth Commandment is convicting me right now not because of the law but because I am exhausted and I have been pretending I'm not.

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  Morgan T.1mo ago

  Honestly? I think this is just rich people theology. The people who CAN'T take Sunday off are nurses, single moms working two jobs, gas station clerks. Are they in sin? Are they failing God? The Sabbath debate always gets argued by people who have the luxury of choosing. The person God really needs to hear this is not the churchgoer — it's the corporate system forcing people to work 7 days. But somehow we never preach THAT part.

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  Riley R.1mo ago

  Yes. He invented naps. Genesis 2:2. Take the nap.

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  Hana K.1mo ago

  Colossians 2:16-17 says it pretty plainly — 'do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.' I honestly don't know how anyone reads that and still insists on a mandatory Saturday or Sunday rest. Christ is the fulfillment. We enter HIS rest now, not a calendar block.

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  Nina1mo ago

  I want to push back on something nobody here has said yet: what if the question itself is badly framed? The debate about 'is Sabbath mandatory' focuses entirely on obligation. Jesus keeps reframing things from obligation to invitation. What if the real question isn't 'must I rest' but 'do I trust God enough to stop?' That's a faith question, not a law question. And honestly, for most of us, the answer is no. We don't trust Him enough to stop. THAT is what we should be examining.

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  Quinn1mo ago

  I think the real elephant in the room is capitalism. The Sabbath was, among many other things, an economic leveler. Every seven days, nobody works — not you, not your servants, not your animals, not the foreigner at your gate. It was structurally anti-exploitation. The reason American Christianity quietly abandoned it isn't theology, it's because enforcing it would cost the economy billions and the donor class of megachurches would have to reckon with it. We chose money.

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  Iris 211mo ago

  If you genuinely believe the fourth commandment is as binding today as the other nine — and if you believe working on the Sabbath was punishable by death in the Old Testament — then I want you to explain to me, directly, what you think God should do with the emergency room nurse who works every other Saturday. I'm not being snarky. I want a real answer. Because whatever your answer is, it reveals what you actually think the Sabbath is for.

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  Ravi1mo ago

  The Colossians passage gets misused constantly. Paul is addressing Gentile converts being pressured by Jewish ceremonial teachers about WHICH day, not whether rest is a moral obligation. There is a massive difference between 'don't let someone bind your conscience to Saturday specifically' and 'rest is now irrelevant.' The creation mandate in Genesis predates Moses, predates Israel, predates everything. You don't get to Colossians your way out of Genesis.

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  Morgan _x1mo ago

  If I've been in the same sermon series for eight weeks that runs until 12:40, drives through lunch, stresses me out for the rest of Sunday, and sends me back into a brutal Monday — is THAT keeping the Sabbath holy? Because that is the lived experience of half of church-attending Christians right now. We need to be honest that 'attend a service' and 'rest' have somehow become synonyms in our minds and they are not the same thing.

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  Theo1mo ago

  ^^ This is the argument I've heard my whole life and I finally looked it up. The New Testament never once tells believers to rest on Sunday. They met on Sunday — sure — but there is NO instruction to treat Sunday as a Sabbath replacement. That tradition came later, largely via Constantine (yes THAT Constantine). The early church didn't swap days and call it rest. The conflation of 'first-day worship gathering' with 'Sabbath rest' is an assumption, not exegesis.

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  Feli1mo ago

  I grew up in a strict Sunday-observance household and I need to tell you what 'Sabbath' actually looked like for me as a kid: no TV, no friends, no fun. Scripture reading only. Sit quietly. Do not enjoy yourself. My parents used the Fourth Commandment as a control mechanism, not a gift. I'm not saying Sabbath is wrong, I'm saying what gets DONE with it matters enormously, and 'commandment' framing makes it real easy to weaponize.

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  Hana1mo ago

  ok but nobody is actually doing sabbath right tho. like even the people who say they keep it are still checking their phones, running errands at noon, watching 4 hours of football. if ur gonna invoke the fourth commandment at least be honest that literally nobody in american christianity is actually keeping it.

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  Maya _x1mo ago

  Short answer: No, not as a judicial sin under Mosaic covenant. Longer answer: you may be starving your soul of something God designed specifically for your flourishing, and that has real consequences even if it's not a capital offense. Both things can be true.

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  Ravi K.1mo ago

  The death penalty argument is completely irrelevant. The death penalty also applied to disrespecting your parents, and I have yet to see anyone in the 'Sabbath is mandatory' crowd calling for that. You cannot selectively enforce the severity of the Mosaic covenant to make your point. Either you're under Mosaic law or you're not. Pick one.

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  Diego1mo ago

  My doctor told me burnout is the leading cause of mental health crises in his patient population. I'm not going to debate Greek words with anyone. I'm going to say: God designed us to rest. The science agrees. The fact that we've built a culture where stopping for one day a week feels radical should terrify the church, regardless of what you think about Colossians 2.

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  Ravi1mo ago

  The Adventist commenter makes a fair point, actually. Hard to hear but fair.

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  Taylor1mo ago

  That Jesus healed on Sabbath is not an argument that Sabbath is abolished. It's an argument that the Pharisees had buried the point of Sabbath under 39 categories of prohibited labor. He was correcting a misuse, not canceling the institution. Why do people keep using this as if it settles the debate?

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  Theo1mo ago

  Hebrews 4 is the real text here and I'm stunned nobody ever preaches it. There REMAINS a Sabbath rest for the people of God. The author uses the Greek word sabbatismos — a word coined specifically there — to describe a coming rest that the people of God have not yet fully entered. This isn't an argument against Sabbath observance, it's an escalation of it. The weekly Sabbath is a preview of the eschatological rest. Abandoning the preview means you've stopped caring about the destination.

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  Morgan T.1mo ago

  The Jewish Sabbath was never primarily about rest as modern Americans think of it. It was about sanctification — setting time apart as holy to God. The rest was a side effect of the primary act of consecration. When Christians reduce Sabbath to 'get some sleep and don't stress' they've turned a theological institution into a wellness tip. That's its own kind of loss.

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  Jordan1mo ago

  Every single one of the Ten Commandments is repeated and reinforced in the New Testament. Except one. The Fourth. Every. Single. One. Except the Sabbath command. That is not an accident. The New Testament church worshipped on the first day because of the resurrection. The shift was intentional and Spirit-led. The burden of proof is on the people claiming Sunday worship is a mistake, not on those who have followed that pattern for 2,000 years.

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  Reese1mo ago

  Jesus healed on the Sabbath. Deliberately. Repeatedly. When the Pharisees confronted him he didn't apologize, he said the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath. If Jesus — who is the Lord of the Sabbath — chose to work and heal on it, what exactly are we defending when we insist on strict non-work observance?

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  Elena1mo ago

  Romans 14:5 — 'One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.' Paul gave Christians freedom on this. I'm not going to judge someone for resting on Saturday. I'm not going to judge someone for working on Sunday. The New Testament is just not as rigid as Sabbatarians want it to be.

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  Nina1mo ago

  Ok but Jesus explicitly said it was made for man, not man for the Sabbath (Mark 2:27). So by design it was a gift, not a cage. The problem described above is people who got that completely backwards. That's an abuse story, not a Sabbath story.

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  Diego1mo ago

  respectfully, the idea that we have to reconstruct ancient near eastern categories to understand what the sabbath means for us today is exactly the kind of academic Christianity that normal people can't access and don't have time for. most of us just want to know: am i sinning if i work on sunday? can we please just answer that question without 14 paragraphs of historical context

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  Theo1mo ago

  the 'romans 14 gives us freedom' interpretation is doing a LOT of heavy lifting. paul is talking about disputable matters between believers, not nullifying a commandment that god literally wrote with his own finger in stone. how is that a 'disputable matter' on the same level as eating meat sacrificed to idols

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  Maya1mo ago

  That's a fascinating and mostly compelling point but I think it overstates the conspiracy. A lot of Christians work Sunday out of genuine theological conviction that they are free to do so, not because they're secretly protecting capitalism. Attributing bad motives to everyone you disagree with theologically doesn't move the conversation forward.

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  Leo1mo ago

  I disagree with the Adventist framing. Using one commandment as a critique of how others use a different commandment is whataboutism. The question of sexual ethics and the question of Sabbath observance are theologically distinct questions. Address the Sabbath argument on its merits, not as a gotcha.

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  Drew M.1mo ago

  This is getting complicated. Can someone just tell me: does God care if I take a nap on Sunday or not? Genuinely asking.

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